Killing Intel, I, I just had to resign from the Apple Board.

And what I'm interested in is investing in people.

The cost of a semiconductor chip fabrication plant doubles every four years.

So I, I knew something in a business sense about semiconductors and I appreciated their possibilities.

My father was an immigrant from Russia and my mother was first generation.

Steve Jobs is a national treasure. He is so visionary, and so bright. I had to fire him, though.

You know, a lot of people are just interested in, in building a company so they can make money and get out.