I certainly never wanted to be a photographer to bore myself. It's no fun - life is too short.

I don't go around looking at my pictures.

When I was a kid in New York I used to go to the zoo. I always liked the zoo. I grew up within walking distance of the Bronx Zoo. And then when my first two children were young, I used to take them to the zoo. Zoos are always interesting. And I make pictures.

Surviving, that's all. That's all I have in mind .

It's a lot of work organizing something, whether it's a show or a book, and I don't want to do it every day.

Well, it was strange, because the phone rang and a teaching job turned up that sounded interesting. And I always did my own work. The Animals and a lot of Public Relations were done while I was doing commercial work.

There's all kinds of people teaching who don't do anything worth a nickel. Likewise in advertising.