In some roles you do get into a mode of terror. It's always very frightening - the first audiences are frightening.
Ian McLeodI'm responsible for a hundred thousand people across Australia as well and I want to keep them gainfully employed. I want to give them opportunity to grow, I want to give them opportunity to develop.
Ian McLeodWhen you're working in the business and you are genuinely trying to do what's right for consumers, and you're trying to genuinely do what's right for suppliers, but the word doesn't get out, the word doesn't get heard because frankly the media is not interested because it hasn't got a conflict attached to it.
Ian McLeod