In some roles you do get into a mode of terror. It's always very frightening - the first audiences are frightening.
Ian McLeodHaving a situation where you have got in conflict with your suppliers all the time is not a great place to be.
Ian McLeodI'm responsible for a hundred thousand people across Australia as well and I want to keep them gainfully employed. I want to give them opportunity to grow, I want to give them opportunity to develop.
Ian McLeodI think I've always been much better at responding kind of reasonably appropriately to whatever is required.
Ian McLeod