Ironically, it was only maybe a year prior to Tim calling I had re-read Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, and what I took away from it was these very strange, little cryptic nuggets that he'd thrown in there.

Some filmmakers go into a film and it's already shot and cut in their head.

There's no truth anymore.

I have toyed with the idea of playing it straight. But, like I say, I really believe we are all out of our minds at some level.

For me, the question was, how can one take a live-action performance and put it in the parameter of one of those cartoons? How much can you get away with?

Not being well-versed in that arena myself, it's a little bit frightening because I'm not very good in those situations with lots of people and lots of famous people and cameras and all of that. It's not my specialty.

Yeah, in every film that I've been lucky enough to do with Tim, there's always some form of torture, and the nails were Tim's idea. They were the length of the fingers and stuff, but it was okay because I had a troop of people who would help me go to the bathroom. They had to have treatment afterwards but they're okay now. That is true.