I like Betsy Ross as a model, too, the quilting bee, sitting around with your friends making art, asking what they think, so that you get the benefit of everyone's opinions and so it's not just about you in your you-dom.

I love flying buttresses!

I didn't start to be an artist myself until I was 24.

Things that are very significant and important to you when constructing an identity when you're younger change.

It is very different when you age. The things that are significant, or what drives you, or the physical experience of being driven, changes over time.

I really love printmaking. It’s like a mystery and you’re trying to figure out how to rein it in.

Life really changes. And it gets lighter, for the most part. You tolerate yourself and others better.