I consider myself normal. I've spent 20 years in the pool. I consider that something that's normal.

I see my goals as personal and I always have. That's just been how I've worked.

I used to always go to church on holidays, but I don't go much any more.

I would visualize the best- and worst-case scenarios. Whether I get disqualified or my goggles fill up with water or I lose my goggles or I come in last, I'm ready for anything.

I always thought, it would be neat to make the Olympic team.

So, you know, if, if I wanted to get up and just play golf one day, I would just get up and play golf. If I wanted to go to Vegas, I would just get up and go to Vegas.

Swimming is fun. It's a lot funner than golf.