What we believe about heaven and hell is incredibly important because it exposes what we believe about who God is and what God is like.

The moment God is figured out with nice neat lines and definitions, we are no longer dealing with God.

I live with the understanding that truth is bigger than any religion and the world is God's and everything in it.

What we believe about heaven and hell is incredibly important because it exposes what we believe about who God is and what God is like.

Sociologically, large groups of people don't generally have massive changes in their belief instantaneously.

I think the church needs – I think this is the world we are living in and we need to affirm people wherever they are.

For many people, God is primitive, behind, trying to drag everything back to some prehistoric era as opposed to spirit, force, love, drawing us into a better future, which to me is - that story has done something in me and I've seen it do things in other people.