And understand that scarce spectrum is used today for example for cell phone operators, they have to pay for the airwaves they use, for their services.

But the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control.

Local television news, on both radio and television, is so appalling. Makes print journalism look like the greatest stuff ever written.

So the system we have in radio and television today is the direct result of government policies that have been made in our name, in the name of the people, on our behalf, but without our informed consent.

What I've found is that there is a tremendous interest in these issues, across the political spectrum, sort of left-right terms we used to describe people don't really hold here exactly.

If you look at the history of broadcasting, what you find is the National Association of Broadcasters is a trade association whose mission is to protect the interests of the commercial broadcasters.

You will never ever, in any circumstance, win any struggle at any time. That being said, we have a long way to go. At the moment, the battle over network neutrality is not to completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies. We are not at that point yet. But the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control.