We were working in entertainment, in the music industry, with popular music, it was important, but it was something that we also felt was a responsibility.

We were working in entertainment, in the music industry, with popular music, it was important, but it was something that we also felt was a responsibility.

We had always used found sound, but we had always used it in an analogue way. And it was the early days of using collage and sound in a digital way. MTV, a couple of years later would be that way.

We also worked with Marshall Jefferson for Groovy, Laidback and Nasty. So we were lucky to work with some really great people.

Crackdown, the video, interpreted and reflected a sense of authority and austerity and a sense of slight, impending doom.

We've always been journalists - and have seen ourselves in that way. But we sort of recontextualized it through music.

I don't think it had a name when we started. If punk has any roots, Dada is part of it. And we saw ourselves as part of a kind of Dada tradition.