If we want authenticity we have to initiate it.

Over the past six years, my girlfriend and I live on our boat two or three months a year. It's just one of our seasonal homes at this point.

There's no doubt 'normal' is changing - spring actually came a month early in Alaska, for example, and we had to stop filming.

My dad really wanted to learn how to sail and, when I was 16, he became a quarter partner in this small, 24-foot trimaran.Three weeks a year, I'd go with him and we'd sail from Florida out around the Bahamas.

We were looking at weather and our relationships with weather. It goes to a few other places, and I don't want to spoil anything, so I won't go into it, but it's about a willingness to expose oneself a little bit more and share something openly and honestly. It's more than just landing tricks. Moving forward, this is just another stepping stone.

It’s not the destination but the adventure along the way.

It's probably the most personal project [The Fourth Phase] I've done, which changed the dynamic a little bit.