There's this idea, particularly in pop music and a lot of these pop father/manager types, that you're selling the person instead of the song. You basically want to create something that the fans relate to because it's exactly like them. So there's a lot of art that's made to be in the image of the audience, but then the audience is imitating this version of themselves. It's a really weird cultural feedback loop, and it's kind of strange to watch. It's a new thing since I was a kid, really a different thing.
Win ButlerWhat I miss [about church] is being forced to be in community with people that aren't the same as me.
Win ButlerI think of hip hop as a mass media, radio, MTV thing. Itโs been extremely relevant over the last 10 years and rock music is just not anymoreโ-a tear rolls down my cheek as I say that.
Win ButlerThere's an obligation to let people know where their money is going, so the tour has an educational aspect, mostly as a way to thank people. But the most practical use is to raise money and do the research to figure out the proper ways to spend it. You want to make sure that the money doesn't just go somewhere where it does more harm than good.
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