Part of Steve's job was to drum into us how important what we were doing actually would be to the world

A lot of people thought Steve Jobs was a CEO of Apple but he never was until he came back to Apple in 1997.

It's [programming] the only job I can think of where I get to be both an engineer and an artist. There's an incredible, rigorous, technical element to it, which I like because you have to do very precise thinking. On the other hand, it has a wildly creative side where the boundaries of imagination are the only real limitation.

Apple was our benefactor at starting General Magic, but about a year later decided they would rather BE General Magic and tried to make us blink out of existence... which we eventually did, but it took a few years.

I left Apple in April of 1984, pretty soon after the introduction of the Mac.

I knew the Apple II was great when I bought it, but as I dug into the details it just completely blew me away the creative artistic approach that the designers had taken.

I started working at Apple about 18 months after I bought my Apple II