Part of Steve's job was to drum into us how important what we were doing actually would be to the world

As you know, Microsoft eventually kind of grabbed the gold ring out of Apple's hands, I guess.

In fact when I first got my Apple II the first thing I did was turn it on and off, on and off, just because I had the power to do so, which I'd never had on a computer before

But typically for a project like the Mac, the size we had was pretty good. And it has different stages. The team grows as you have to write manuals and do testing... though the Mac had no formal testing.

I started working at Apple about 18 months after I bought my Apple II

I was a grad student at UC Berkeley when I bought my Apple II and it suddenly because a lot more interesting than school

Apple was our benefactor at starting General Magic, but about a year later decided they would rather BE General Magic and tried to make us blink out of existence... which we eventually did, but it took a few years.