And what I'm interested in is investing in people.

Which, the first meeting with anybody is, you know, everybody is on their best behavior. It's only after you get to know them for a while that you figure out.

Killing Intel, I, I just had to resign from the Apple Board.

The cost of a semiconductor chip fabrication plant doubles every four years.

You know, a lot of people are just interested in, in building a company so they can make money and get out.

So I, I knew something in a business sense about semiconductors and I appreciated their possibilities.

Well, I was born and raised in Rochester, New York.