I wanted to prevent people from giving them too much power. I see that as a pattern. I wanted that to come to an end as soon as possible.

I would argue that one of the major problems with our blind trust in algorithms is that we can propagate discriminatory patterns without acknowledging any kind of intent.

I think what's happened is that the general public has become much more aware of the destructive power of Wall Street.

We don't let a car company just throw out a car and start driving it around without checking that the wheels are fastened on. We know that would result in death; but for some reason we have no hesitation at throwing out some algorithms untested and unmonitored even when they're making very important life-and-death decisions.

My fantasy is that there is a new regulatory body that is in charge of algorithmic auditing.

Every system using data separates humanity into winners and losers.

The national conversation around white entitlement, around institutionalized racism, the Black Lives Matter movement, I think, came about in large part because of the widening and broadening of our understanding of inequality. That conversation was begun by Occupy.