Crackdown, the video, interpreted and reflected a sense of authority and austerity and a sense of slight, impending doom.

I think probably underneath it all, film [Kino] has its own rhythm and its own dynamic, and we were trying to capture the movement of film and cross-reference it with music.

You don't have to be trained in music to create sounds and to produce and release music. That's what we were saying back in 73-74. And that's the way the world is now - and all the tools of creation, production and dissemination are there in everybody's bedrooms, front rooms and studios.

One of the tropes of our videos is that they were very rhythmic with clipped edits.

Crackdown, the video, interpreted and reflected a sense of authority and austerity and a sense of slight, impending doom.

Looking back, I think we were very much a part of democratizing music, and we wanted to demystify the process of making music - to show it's a myth.

We've always been journalists - and have seen ourselves in that way. But we sort of recontextualized it through music.