We also worked with Marshall Jefferson for Groovy, Laidback and Nasty. So we were lucky to work with some really great people.

I think what we tried to do lyrically, vocally and musically was to capture a sound.

One of the tropes of our videos is that they were very rhythmic with clipped edits.

We were sort of coming from an angle where we wanted to break rules.

I think we saw our reaction coming from Dada, but at the same time, it formed into punk, which was very much a reaction to the social conditions. That was part of it for us as well, and that's why we were kind of swept along with punk.

I think in everything we did, there's a sense of tension and a sense of things pulling in a different way. It's interesting calling it "beat music". That's quite true, the rhythm is up to the fore, it's got a slap bass, and it's got "funk" in the title. But I think there's always a level of irony when we did those kind of things.

We were iconoclastic. We weren't there to sort of follow the trends really. So it was important that we were making a statement against that.