I think what's happened is that the general public has become much more aware of the destructive power of Wall Street.

An insurance company might say, "Tell us more about yourself so your premiums can go down." When they say that, they're addressing the winners, not the losers.

I don't think anybody's ever notified that they were sentenced to an extra two years because their recidivism score had been high, or notified that this beat cop happened to be in their neighborhood checking people's pockets for pot because of a predictive policing algorithm. That's just not how it works.

I think what's happened is that the general public has become much more aware of the destructive power of Wall Street.

My fantasy is that there is a new regulatory body that is in charge of algorithmic auditing.

People are starting to be very skeptical of the Facebook algorithm and all kinds of data surveillance.

I set up a company, an algorithmic auditing company myself. I have no clients.