The difference being that a nerd would wear a D&D shirt because he loves D&D while a hipster would wear a D&D shirt because it's ridiculous that he is wearing a D&D shirt.

I categorize nerds as creative-obsessive. A lot of nerds are creative people who obsess almost unnaturally over the minutiae of things.

There's no ironic appreciation of things we love, even of things that are in fact ridiculous, which a hipster might take and own and show the world the humor in it.

Do you think Patrick Swayze now goes up behind people in pottery classes and hugs them just to crack up other ghosts?

I like listening to people talk about things that they love. They get to express things they don't normally get to express.

I do podcasts for the same reasons I do stand-up comedy. I love it, and I don't care if anybody else gets it.

I made a lot of changes in my life between my twenties and thirties, and it all sort of revolves around how I think people with nerdier brains tend to problem-solve and approach things differently then "norms."