In the 80s, we were still living in a kind of Cold War environment.

We were coming from a completely different place, which was saying "sound" is what you want to define it as, and you can shape it into music in whichever way you want.

I think that's the fascinating thing that exists now. This contrasts with a celebrity art and celebrity music culture.

We've always been journalists - and have seen ourselves in that way. But we sort of recontextualized it through music.

We were working in entertainment, in the music industry, with popular music, it was important, but it was something that we also felt was a responsibility.

Going there [Japan] in the early 80s was quite a culture shock. I think the bombardment of Shinjuku and all that would have filtered through, which certainly informed things we later filmed.

In the 80s, we were still living in a kind of Cold War environment.