I edited Big Funk, some of the footage was shot by Peter Care. We were film buffs as much as music buffs, and so there are film reference as well as sound references.

I think that's the fascinating thing that exists now. This contrasts with a celebrity art and celebrity music culture.

We were iconoclastic. We weren't there to sort of follow the trends really. So it was important that we were making a statement against that.

Even though we were influenced by American culture and music, we like the rest of Europe have been colonized with that in the post-war period. At the same time there's a sense of dirty earthiness and Europeanness and Britishness in it as well.

Crackdown, the video, interpreted and reflected a sense of authority and austerity and a sense of slight, impending doom.

We were responding to a period in the 70s when we started that it was very much you cannot be involved in music unless you studied to do music.

Music doesn't have to be so rule-based - and so strict in its structures, construction and perception.